{"id":6622,"date":"2021-01-12T20:05:56","date_gmt":"2021-01-12T20:05:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.star-k.org\/articles\/?p=6622"},"modified":"2024-01-02T19:42:05","modified_gmt":"2024-01-02T19:42:05","slug":"navigating-the-pizza-paradox-pas-or-pas-nisht","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.star-k.org\/articles\/kashrus-kurrents\/6622\/navigating-the-pizza-paradox-pas-or-pas-nisht\/","title":{"rendered":"Navigating the Pizza Paradox: Pas or Pas Nisht"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Kashrus Kurrents, Winter 2021<\/p>\n\n\n<p>If you ask any out-of-town kiruv professional involved in outreach, \u201cWhat are the two most important community \u2018must-haves\u2019 needed to attract <em>baalei teshuvah<\/em> or create growth in a particular Jewish community?\u201d, nine times out of ten the answer you will get is 1) an eruv and 2) a kosher pizza shop! I can bear witness to this fact. At the beginning of my tenure as executive director of the Vaad Hoer of St. Louis 35 years ago, I sent out a questionnaire to the frum <em>kehilos<\/em> and the community at large asking what they think would enhance the St. Louis frum community. Believe it or not, the overwhelming response was a kosher pizza shop. Soon thereafter, a kosher pizza shop opened. Subsequently, two community eruvim were also built.<\/p>\n<p>Similarly, over 40 years ago in my shul in Birmingham, Alabama, where the community was too small to support either a kosher pizza shop or an eruv, one of the congregants who happened to be a professional pizza chef made kosher pizzas for the shul every month.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>The History of Pizza<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>When did pizza become so popular? Speculation has it that pizza, a popularly known flatbread topped with cheese and vegetables, dates back to ancient times. According to some Hebrew historians, the word \u2018pizza\u2019 is derived from a kosher cookie called \u2018pizzarelle\u2019, which was eaten by Roman yidden after coming home from shul. This etymology is one amongst many, but probably the most intriguing.<\/p>\n<p>Contemporary historians attribute the modern-day pizza to the Italian pizza maker, Raffaele Esposito, who created the pizza in honor of Queen Margherita of Savoy, Italy in 1889. His creation was called \u2018Pizza Margherita\u2019. In the early 1900s, the first pizza shop was opened in New York City by Gennaro Lombardi. At that point, pizza was exclusively viewed as an ethnic dish and did not cross over to the U.S. at large until after World War II, when servicemen returned from Europe and pizza shops began to proliferate. Of course, with the commercialization of pizza it did not take long for kosher pizzerias to make their appearance in Jewish communities throughout the New York area.<\/p>\n<p>The kashrus of pizza ingredients is relatively simple: Flour, water and yeast for the dough and kosher tomato sauce, kosher cheese, herbs\/spices and vegetables (no pepperoni) for the toppings. What was not so simple was determining what <em>bracha<\/em> to make over pizza. Pizza dough is a bread dough and the <em>bracha<\/em> made would be <em>Hamotzi;<\/em> however, the pizza\u2019s other components could transform it to a completely different <em>bracha.<\/em> Pizza falls into a unique category of bread-like products known as <em>Pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>. <em>Pas Haba\u2019a B\u2019kisnin<\/em> literally means \u2018pocket bread\u2019.&nbsp; Horav Moshe Heinemann, shli\u201dta, gave us a novel explanation of the term <em>\u2018b\u2019kisnin\u2019<\/em> as a bread product that you can put in your pocket.&nbsp; This should be taken figuratively, not literally. However, Rav Heinemann maintained that it was called <em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em> for its snack-like qualities.&nbsp; These products were not created for <em>k\u2019viyas seuda<\/em>, breaking bread at a meal.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Determining the Criteria<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>What defines <em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>? Interestingly, <em>halacha<\/em> provides four approaches to&nbsp;define<em>&nbsp;pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>The&nbsp;<em>Tur,<\/em>&nbsp;<em>Rosh,<\/em>&nbsp;<em>Aruch,<\/em> and the&nbsp;<em>Rashba<\/em>&nbsp;say that&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>&nbsp;is a bread&nbsp;product that is filled with honey, nuts, sweets and spices.<\/li>\n<li><em>Rambam<\/em>&nbsp;and <em>Bais Yosef<\/em> maintain that the dough itself is&nbsp;distinctively sweet or fruity. The dough should taste markedly&nbsp;cake-like rather than bread-like.<\/li>\n<li>The&nbsp;<em>Bach<\/em>&nbsp;expands on the position of the&nbsp;<em>Rambam\/Bais Yosef<\/em>. Eggs,&nbsp;honey and other sweet or spicy ingredients should not only give the dough a&nbsp;distinctly sweet or spicy taste, but should also be a major&nbsp;component of the recipe.<a href=\"#1\"><sup>1<\/sup><\/a><\/li>\n<li>Rav Hai Gaon\u2018s approach to&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>&nbsp;is that the bread&nbsp;dough is baked into a crisp, hard cracker, e.g., flatbread, bread sticks, and&nbsp;pretzels.<a href=\"#2\"><sup>2<\/sup><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><em>Halacha<\/em>&nbsp;concludes that all four opinions fulfill the criteria of <em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>, and the <em>bracha<\/em> recited would be <em>Borei Minei Mezonos<\/em>.<a href=\"#3\"><sup>3<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><strong>Putting the Consumer Into the Picture<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Nevertheless, as with every general principle there are exceptions; <em>Pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>,&nbsp;is no different. There are two common scenarios when a&nbsp;<em>\u201cMezonos\u201d<\/em> <em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>&nbsp;product can be elevated to <em>Hamotzi<\/em> status.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>When One is <em>Kovea Seuda<\/em><\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>When one eats enough <em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em> for a full dinner meal, or if one eats <em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>&nbsp;to augment other side dishes for a full meal, the&nbsp;bracha&nbsp;one&nbsp;makes on that&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>&nbsp;is&nbsp;<em>Hamotzi.<\/em> Why?&nbsp;In these cases, when one eats the&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>&nbsp;as one would eat bread,&nbsp;the&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>&nbsp;has been elevated to bread-like status; hence, the&nbsp;bracha&nbsp;would be&nbsp;Hamotzi. In all instances of&nbsp;exclusive&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>, the amount that an average person consumes for a dinner meal determines how much&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>&nbsp;constitutes a full meal.<a href=\"#4\"><sup>4<\/sup><\/a>&nbsp;When the&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>&nbsp;augments the meal,&nbsp;such as cake or a&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>&nbsp;roll with an airline meal, even if the&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>&nbsp;roll or cake tastes like cake, once one eats this cake or&nbsp;roll with a meal it fulfills a bread-like criteria and one would have to&nbsp;wash and recite <em>Hamotzi<\/em>&nbsp;on the cake or&nbsp;<em>Mezonos<\/em>&nbsp;roll.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Current Pizza Consumption Habits<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>When Kashrus Kurrents took a pizza poll of current pizza consumption, the results revealed that the average person eats one slice of an 18\u201d pizza&nbsp;(alone, without any sides) as a snack, three slices of an 18\u201d pizza&nbsp;(alone, without any sides) as a meal. Two slices of an 18\u201d pizza (alone,&nbsp;without any sides) was questionable. Most pizza shops agreed that&nbsp;the average consumer orders two slices of thin or thick crust pizza with a side dish for dinner.&nbsp;Similarly, one slice of square dish Sicilian pizza eaten alone as a meal is&nbsp;questionable. In order to avoid a <em>sofek,<\/em> doubt, on what is the correct <em>bracha,<\/em> two slices of 18\u201d pizza or one slice of Sicilian pizza should&nbsp;not be ordered alone, but rather with side dishes, be it thin or thick crust pizza and the <em>bracha<\/em> would be <em>Hamotzi.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Furthermore, the pizza poll concluded that amounts qualifying for an average meal that would require a <em>Hamotzi<\/em> include half of a 14\u201d thin crust pie, half of&nbsp;a 12\u201d regular crust pie, half of a 9\u201d deep dish pizza, or a complete 9\u201d or&nbsp;10\u201dpie for dinner.<a href=\"#5\"><sup>5<\/sup><\/a> Relatively new pizza shop offerings qualifying for <em>Hamotzi<\/em> include one slice of vegetable pizza, half of a calzone, half of a large garlic knot and half of a pizza shop soft pretzel.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>The Great <em>Pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em> Oxymoron<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>The term <em>\u201cMezonos<\/em>&nbsp;roll\u201d is one of the great&nbsp;kashrus&nbsp;oxymorons. Often, a roll comes with a sticker stating, \u201cMade with Apple Juice \u2013 <em>Birchoso Mezonos<\/em>\u201d. If the roll&nbsp;is bread, how can the&nbsp;<em>bracha<\/em>&nbsp;be&nbsp;<em>Mezonos?<\/em> If the roll looks like bread and tastes like bread, how can the <em>bracha<\/em>&nbsp;not be <em>Hamotzi?<\/em> Even if apple juice is used in the recipe, if it looks like a roll and tastes like a roll then it is still considered to be a roll.<\/p>\n<p>However, an excellent example of a <em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em> challah is a new Baltimore creation, the Cinnamon Babka Challah, the <em>bracha<\/em> of which is <em>Mezonos.<\/em> This challah is braided like a regular challah, and is topped with a streusel topping, loaded with cinnamon; it looks like a challah but tastes like a babka. This fulfills the criteria of <em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>, and the <em>bracha<\/em> would be <em>Mezonos<\/em> unless it is eaten together with your Shabbos meal, in which case the <em>bracha<\/em> would be upgraded to <em>Hamotzi.<\/em><\/p>\n<h3><strong>A Pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin Anomaly: Putting the Producer Into the Picture<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>At times, a product appears to be classic <em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em> yet the <em>bracha<\/em> is <em>Hamotzi.<\/em>&nbsp; This is due to a fundamental <em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em> principle &#8211; the intention of the producer. If the intention of the baker was to bake bread,&nbsp;that item is considered full-fledged bread and the <em>bracha<\/em> would be <em>Hamotzi<\/em> even if that product is subsequently formulated into an item with&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>&nbsp;properties. That cracker-like product is still&nbsp;halachically&nbsp;considered to be bread, and the&nbsp;<em>bracha<\/em>&nbsp;will be&nbsp;<em>Hamotzi.<\/em> Conversely, if the&nbsp;intention of the baker is to create a snack product, that product is&nbsp;considered to be&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bagel Chips<\/strong>:&nbsp;One of the most elusive&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>&nbsp;bakery products is&nbsp;the bagel chip. Bagel chips can theoretically be made in many fashions:&nbsp;baked, toasted, fried, manufactured commercially, or made locally on a small&nbsp;scale and sold by bakeries in clear poly bags. Commercially produced bagel chips, according to the&nbsp;bagel chip companies that were researched, do not take fresh bagels and slice and&nbsp;toast them into bagel chips. In order to get a uniform bagel chip product,&nbsp;commercial bagel chips have fairly strict quality control baking&nbsp;criteria: size, thickness and texture. To this end, commercial bagel chips&nbsp;are made from long loaves of bagel dough that are extruded and cut into&nbsp;uniformly sized bagel chips that are seasoned, baked and toasted. These&nbsp;commercial bagel chips are manufactured as a snack food, and the&nbsp;<em>bracha<\/em>&nbsp;would also be&nbsp;<em>Mezonos.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>How can you tell the difference between a commercial and a local bakery bagel chip? Commercial bagel chips do have a bagel look and texture, yet many of&nbsp;them do not have a hole! Furthermore, they are all uniform in size and&nbsp;thickness. Bagel chips fitting these criteria would be&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>.&nbsp;On the other hand, bagel chips made from leftover bagels, which were&nbsp;originally intended to be eaten as a meal, would be similar to Melba toast&nbsp;and the&nbsp;<em>bracha<\/em>&nbsp;on these bagel chips is&nbsp;<em>Hamotzi.<\/em> If the baker has no&nbsp;specific intention, he or she often bakes bagels knowing that some of them will eventually be converted into bagel chips. Those bagel chips would be&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Melba toast<\/strong>&nbsp;is a classic example of bread that is subsequently toasted.&nbsp;Melba toast was named after Dame Nellie Melba, who wanted a low-fat&nbsp;alternative to bread so that she could watch her weight. The baker\u2019s&nbsp;intention when making the Melba toast was to create an alternative to bread. Even though Melba toast resembles Rav Hai Gaon\u2019s criteria of&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>, the&nbsp;<em>bracha<\/em>&nbsp;on Melba toast is&nbsp;<em>Hamotzi.<\/em> Conversely, frozen pizza boards that are par-baked and edible are manufactured with the intention of being further processed into pizza, a product that is a snack food, and is&nbsp;<em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em>&nbsp;upon which one recites&nbsp;<em>Mezonos.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Frying creates a completely different&nbsp;<em>halachic<\/em>&nbsp;ruling with all bread&nbsp;products. Any fried bread product \u2013 croutons, pita chips, bagel chips and&nbsp;the like \u2013 warrants a&nbsp;<em>Mezonos<\/em>&nbsp;because frying nullifies the&nbsp;bread status of a bread product less than a&nbsp;<em>k\u2019zayis.<\/em> Boiling a flour-based&nbsp;product, such as pasta, always creates the&nbsp;<em>Borei Minei<\/em> status because&nbsp;it is not bread and does not have the texture of bread.<\/p>\n<p><em>Baruch Hashem<\/em>, we are living during a time when we can benefit from Hashem\u2019s generous bounty and &nbsp;experience the culinary &nbsp;innovation to create delicious dishes. Also, <em>Baruch Hashem<\/em> for giving us the <em>chochma,<\/em>&nbsp;wisdom, to properly apply the halachic fundamentals to understand what we are eating so that we can &nbsp;recite the correct <em>brocha.<\/em>&nbsp; We are fortunate to have the double benefit of being able to enjoy&nbsp;the fruits of our labor while giving <em>nachas ruach<\/em> to the <em>Ribbono Shel Olam<\/em>.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<ol>\n \t<li id=\"1\"><em>Be\u2019er Heitev<\/em> O.C. 168 No. 12. According to this opinion, the <em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em> is comparable to cake that is eaten at the end of a meal.<\/li>\n<p> \t<\/p><li id=\"2\">According to this opinion, <em>pas haba\u2019a b\u2019kisnin<\/em> means\u2019 food that one chews\u2019.<\/li>\n<p> \t<\/p><li id=\"3\"><em>Be\u2019er Heitev<\/em>, O.C. 168 No. 10<\/li>\n<p> \t<\/p><li id=\"4\">See <em>Be\u2019er Halacha<\/em>, ibid No. 6. It seems clear that an elderly person or a young child who eats smaller portions would have to wash and <em>bentch<\/em> on the amount that they normally eat because their age group is satiated with a smaller amount.<\/li>\n<p> \t<\/p><li id=\"5\">For other scenarios and halachic issues regarding pizza, see <a href=\"https:\/\/www.star-k.org\/articles\/kosher-lists\/1512\/pas-habaah-bkisnin\/\">here<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ol>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kashrus Kurrents, Winter 2021<\/p>\n<p>If you ask any out-of-town kiruv professional involved in outreach, \u201cWhat are the two most important community \u2018must-haves\u2019 needed to attract baalei teshuvah or create growth in a particular Jewish community?\u201d, nine times out of ten the answer you will get is 1) an eruv and 2) a kosher pizza shop! I can bear witness to this fact. At the beginning of my tenure as executive director of the Vaad Hoer of St. Louis 35 years ago, I sent out a questionnaire to the frum kehilos and the community at large asking what they think would enhance the St. Louis frum community. Believe it or not, the overwhelming response was a kosher pizza shop. Soon thereafter, a kosher pizza shop opened. Subsequently, two community eruvim were also built.<\/p>\n<p>Similarly, over 40 years ago in my shul in Birmingham, Alabama, where the community was too small to support either [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":6627,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[185,27,318,186],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6622","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-kashrus-kurrents-2021","category-kashrus-kurrents","category-kashrus-kurrents-in-app","category-winter-kashrus-kurrents-2021"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Navigating the Pizza Paradox: Pas or Pas Nisht | STAR-K Kosher Certification<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Kashrus Kurrents, Winter 2021 If you ask any out-of-town kiruv professional 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