{"id":5799,"date":"2018-11-05T17:34:05","date_gmt":"2018-11-05T17:34:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.star-k.org\/articles\/?p=5799"},"modified":"2026-02-13T17:37:01","modified_gmt":"2026-02-13T17:37:01","slug":"meshane-makom-meshane-bracha","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.star-k.org\/articles\/kashrus-kurrents\/5799\/meshane-makom-meshane-bracha\/","title":{"rendered":"Meshane Makom\/Meshane Bracha: When do I Need a New Bracha?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Almost every time I enter a supermarket, I marvel at the wide variety of fresh and frozen fruits and vegetables, as well as a plentiful assortment of epicurean delights. If someone were to call their market \u201cGan Eden<\/em>\u201d \u2013 in the secular sense \u2013 they would be right.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Before consuming our supermarket delicacies, we must give proper consideration to an important shaila<\/em>: What is the correct brocha<\/em> for this food? Many times, this is not an easy question. After all, there are so many aspects of birchos hanehenin<\/em>1<\/sup><\/a> to keep in mind. How does it grow? Is it processed? Is one of the chameishes minei dagan<\/em> (five special grains) present in a halachically<\/em> meaningful way? What part of the food is the ikar<\/em> (primary) to me? Do I need to recite a brocha<\/em> if I already said the same brocha<\/em> on a different food? What if I decided I was finished eating, but then changed my mind?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Assuming we get past this initial analysis, recite the brocha<\/em> and begin to eat the food, we will often find ourselves in another realm with a whole new slew of shailos<\/em> that are not so well known. This is an area of brochos<\/em> that can cause a lot of uncertainty for even the most learned of individuals. It is an area of Hilchos Brochos<\/em> called Shinui Makom<\/em> \u2013 a \u201cChange of Place\u201d. Put succinctly, a brocha\u2019s<\/em> continued validity can be dependent upon a change of location.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Concept of Shinui Makom<\/em><\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

The Rama paskens<\/em>2<\/sup><\/a> that the laws of shinui makom<\/em> are based on the laws of hesech hada\u2019as<\/em>, literally taking one\u2019s mind off what one was doing. In the context of a brocha rishona<\/em>, this would mean that if a person decided he was finished eating and then changed his mind and wanted to continue eating, a new brocha<\/em> would be required. So, too, says the Rama \u201cchanging one\u2019s place\u201d automatically causes the brocha rishona<\/em> to expire.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Five Common Scenarios<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Before we delve into the definition of what is a halachically<\/em> significant change of place, let us first ponder five common scenarios that will provide a strong foundation for our application of the laws of shinui makom<\/em> to many other situations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Scenario #1<\/strong> \u2013 Eighteen year-old Shmuel sits down in the kitchen to eat a quick snack of sliced mango before he runs out to the store. After taking a bite, he runs back upstairs to his room to get his watch and returns to finish his snack. Must he recite another \u201cHa\u2019eitz<\/em>\u201d when returning to eat in the kitchen? Does it make a difference if his room was in a converted free-standing garage?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Scenario #2<\/strong> – Avraham comes home from Shacharis<\/em> and sits down with his coffee, whole wheat muffin and sefer<\/em>. After eating half of the muffin and drinking some of the coffee, he realizes that he should go outside and scrape the frost off his car\u2019s windshield if he expects to get to work on time. After a few minutes, he returns to finish his breakfast. Is Avraham required to recite another \u201cMezonos<\/em>\u201d and \u201cShehakol<\/em>\u201d?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Scenario #3<\/strong> – As Leah is waiting by the front door waiting for her ride to Passaic, she begins to nibble on her cotton candy. Five minutes later, her ride arrives and she continues eating her cotton candy in the car. Does Leah need to recite \u201cShehakol<\/em>\u201d again?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Scenario # 4<\/strong> – Walking home from the supermarket, Dovid opens the bag of corn chips and begins to munch on a few. As he continues walking, he takes a few more into his hand. Is another \u201cShehakol<\/em>\u201d in order?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Scenario #5<\/strong> – During a family barbeque in the fenced-in backyard, Rivkah abandons her corn on the cob and runs up the stairs to the house to get a few more cans of soda for the thirsty crew. When Rivkah returns, does she require another \u201cHa\u2019adamah<\/em>\u201d?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Halachic<\/em> Considerations<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Let us first delve into the definition of what halachically<\/em> constitutes a significant change of place.
\nGenerally, when one leaves his initial place of eating his original brocha rishona<\/em> expires. However, there are two common exceptions:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Exception #1<\/strong> – If he is mandated to return to his original location for a brocha achrona<\/em>, then he is halachically<\/em> linked to that place and the brocha rishona<\/em> does not expire.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Exception #2<\/strong> \u2013 If at least one of the original people who was eating with him at the time is still present,3<\/sup><\/a> he is still halachically<\/em> linked to his place of eating and the brocha rishona<\/em> does not expire.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Exception #1 \u2013 In Depth<\/strong>
\nWhen a person has eaten at least a k\u2019zayis<\/em> of Hamotzi<\/em> or Mezonos<\/em> (except rice), the general rule is that he must recite the brocha achrona<\/em> in that place. Even if he leaves, he should return for his brocha acharona<\/em>. Since he is halachically<\/em> bound to his place, his brocha rishona<\/em> does not expire upon leaving it. A brocha rishona<\/em> is not recited, regardless of whether he continues eating in his new locale or returns to the original one.4<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

On the other hand, if a person consumed less than a kzayis<\/em> of Hamotzi<\/em> or Mezonos<\/em>,5<\/sup><\/a> or he ate even a k\u2019zayis<\/em> or more of a Shehakol<\/em>, Ha\u2019adama<\/em> or Ha\u2019eitz<\/em> (seven species fruits are questionable<\/strong>),6<\/sup><\/a> he is not bound to return to the original place where he ate in order to recite a brocha acharona<\/em>. Therefore, when he leaves his place the brocha rishona<\/em> expires. If he wants to continue eating in his new place, or if he returns to the first place, a new brocha rishona<\/em> is required (unless Exception #2 applies).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Definition Of A Change In Place<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Room To Room<\/span> – For a brocha rishona<\/em> to expire, a person must leave the \u201cfixed\u201d place where he ate. If one remains in the same room, even if he cannot see the place where he recited the brocha<\/em>, the brocha<\/em> is still valid. However, the moment he leaves that room the brocha rishona<\/em> expires, unless:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

1a) It is his common practice to go to another room7<\/sup><\/a> when eating, or before making the brocha<\/em> he had in mind to leave to go to another room
\nor
\n1b) Part of the first room can be seen from the second room8<\/sup><\/a>
\nand
\n2) The rooms are in the same building.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

After the fact, if a person changed rooms in the same building and the above requirements 1a) and 1b) were not met, a brocha rishona<\/em> would not be repeated.9<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Leaving A Building<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Generally, when a person leaves a building to go to an open or unroofed area the brocha rishona<\/em> expires (see above \u201cException #1 – In Depth\u201d). It does not matter whether or not the person intended to return immediately, had the food in hand, or just stepped out the door.10<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

The most common exception is the case of a person exiting a building with food in his mouth (e.g., sucking a candy).11<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Another exception is if a person is about to leave and recites the brocha<\/em>, starts to eat inside and then leaves. The brocha<\/em> remains valid.12<\/sup><\/a>
\nOne more exception would be if one has a sukkah<\/em> attached to his house. If one enters the sukkah<\/em> directly upon exiting the house, then the sukkah<\/em> is considered another room of the house. However, if the sukkah<\/em> entrance is detached from the house the brocha<\/em> remains valid only for the rooms into which he can see.13<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Answers to Five Common Scenarios<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

With these halachic<\/em> guidelines in mind, we can now provide the answers to the scenarios previously presented:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Scenario #1<\/strong> – If before reciting the brocha<\/em>, Shmuel contemplated leaving the kitchen to go to his room before finishing the mango, or if it is his common practice to leave the room when eating (as most people do nowadays), then he would not need to recite another brocha<\/em> upon returning to his mango. However, if his room is in a free-standing structure, such as a \u201cfinished garage\u201d, he would be required to recite another \u201cHa\u2019eitz<\/em>\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Scenario #2<\/strong> – If Avraham ate at least a k\u2019zayis<\/em> of the muffin, he is required to return for his brocha achrona<\/em>. Therefore, his \u201cMezonos<\/em>\u201d did not expire when he left. The anomaly here is that since his \u201cMezonos<\/em>\u201d did not expire and he must return to recite Al Hamichya<\/em>, the \u201cShehakol<\/em>\u201d for his coffee also does not expire.14<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Scenario #3<\/strong> – When Leah recited \u201cShehakol<\/em>\u201d for the cotton candy, she was anticipating her ride at any moment. Therefore, her place in the house was not considered a fixed place. Consequently, no brocha<\/em> is needed when she eats in the car or anywhere else during her travels.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Scenario # 4<\/strong> – No new brocha<\/em> is required. Since Dovid was not in a \u201cfixed\u201d place when he began eating, wherever he walks is \u201chis place\u201d.15<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Scenario #5<\/strong> – Rivkah does not recite a new \u201cHa\u2019adamah<\/em>\u201d. Since she left others in the yard as she went into the house, her brocha<\/em> remains valid. However, if she would have been eating by herself in that same yard she would be required to recite another brocha<\/em> before continuing to eat her corn.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yes, it is true that many factors affect the endurance of a brocha rishona<\/em>. Included in the factors that we need to ponder are: the type of food, how much we have eaten, our intentions, whether or not we ate with others, in what type of area we ate and where we want to eat now.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The next time we may be in a quandary as to whether or not a new brocha rishona<\/em> is required we are now well armed to address the shaila<\/em> with confidence<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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    \n
  1. \u00a0Brochos<\/em> that we recite for physical benefits.<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  2. Shulchan Aruch<\/em> (S.A.), Orach Chayim<\/em> (O.C.): 178, 2<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  3. Rav<\/em> Heinemann, shlit\u201da<\/em>, holds this is true even if the person remaining has already said a brocha achrona.<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n
  4. S.A. 178,5<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  5. Mishna Berurah<\/em> (M.B.) ,278:28<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  6. Ibid,45<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  7. Hilchos Yom B\u2019yom<\/em> in the name of Rav<\/em> Yosef Shalom Elyashiv, z\u201dtl<\/em>, and Rav<\/em> Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, z\u201dtl<\/em>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  8. M.B. ibid, 12, see Chayei Adam<\/em> 59,5 and Aruch Hashulchan<\/em> (A.H.) 178,10<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  9. Biur Halacha<\/em>, 2781,1 dibur hamaschil<\/em> (d.h.) \u201cB\u2019bayis<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n
  10. M.B. ibid,2,4 and 39. Also see Chayei Adam<\/em> 59,6 , A.H. ibid, S.A.Harav<\/em> 8 and Igros Moshe<\/em> O.C. (5) 17.<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  11. Igros Moshe<\/em> ibid (2) 57<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  12. Ibid<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  13. Biur Halacha<\/em> 273 d.h. U\u2019mibayis <\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n
  14. Rav<\/em> Heinemann, shlit\u201da.<\/em> Also see Pischei Halacha<\/em> p. 198 note 18.<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  15. M.B. ibid, 42. As addressed by the M.B., when a brocha<\/em> is recited in an open area at a fixed place (e.g., at a picnic table in a park), the brocha<\/em> remains valid anywhere within eyesight.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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    Before consuming our supermarket delicacies, we must give proper consideration to an important shaila: What is the correct brocha for this food? Many times, this is not an easy question. After all, there are so many aspects of birchos hanehenin1<\/a> to keep in mind. How does it grow? Is it processed? Is one of the chameishes minei dagan (five special grains) present in a halachically meaningful way? What part of the food is the ikar (primary) to me? Do I need to recite a brocha if I already said the same brocha on a different food? 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