{"id":1464,"date":"2013-11-28T17:38:47","date_gmt":"2013-11-28T17:38:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.star-k.org\/articles\/?p=1464"},"modified":"2024-01-02T19:48:01","modified_gmt":"2024-01-02T19:48:01","slug":"insights-from-the-institute-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.star-k.org\/articles\/kashrus-kurrents\/1464\/insights-from-the-institute-3\/","title":{"rendered":"Eruv Chatzeiros in a Hotel on Shabbos"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Kashrus Kurrents Fall 2013<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Q: When a person stays in a hotel for Shabbos, does he need to make an eruv chatzeiros to allow him to carry items in the hallways and lobby?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A: In order to answer this question, we need to review some of the basic halachos of eruv chatzeiros.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the times of Chazal, it was common for private houses to be situated around the perimeter of a rectangular central courtyard, known as a chatzeir. The chatzeir was used by the members of these houses for chores, such as washing clothes and grinding grain. The Torah considers a chatzeir to be a reshus hayachid (a private domain) if it is surrounded on all sides by walls of the houses and one could, therefore, carry in the chatzeir on Shabbos. However, due to the fact that a chatzeir is less private than a house, the Rabonnon forbade carrying in a chatzeir unless the following two criteria are met:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>First, the exit from the chatzeir to the alley or street must have a door or contain a structure which serves to either block the exit or remind people not to carry beyond the exit. This structure needs to be built in a halachically mandated way, which is beyond the scope of this article.<sup>1<\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Second, one person must collect a roll of bread from each of the Jewish families that live in the houses surrounding the chatzeir,<sup>2<\/sup> or he must collect flour from each of the families and bake all the flour into a roll.<sup>3<\/sup> Alternatively, one person may take a roll or piece of bread that he owns and declare that he is transferring ownership of some portion of the bread to each of the families that live in the chatzeir.<sup>4<\/sup> He then hands the bread to another Jewish person, who acquires the bread on behalf of all the families of the chatzeir.<sup>5<\/sup> Lechatchila, this person should not be his wife or unmarried child.<sup>6<\/sup> Each individual should possess ownership of one grogeres of bread,<sup>7<\/sup> which is slightly less than one quarter of a machine matza.<sup>8<\/sup> Thus, if there are eighteen individuals living in a chatzeir, they would need to take four matzos so that each individual could own one grogeres of matza.<sup>9<\/sup> Once there are more than 18 individuals living in a chatzeir, four matzos are sufficient even though each individual will no longer own a grogeres of matza.<sup>10<\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After completing either of these methods of bread collection, it is agreed that each family will share its portion of the bread with anyone else who lives in the chatzeir.<sup>11<\/sup> The roll or piece of bread is stored in one of the houses, and the owner of the house allows anyone who lives in the chatzeir to enter his house and take some of the bread.<sup>12<\/sup> If more than one roll or matza is used, the rolls or matzos should all be stored in one utensil.<sup>13<\/sup> In this way, it is halachically considered as though all the people living in the chatzeir comprise one family living in that house, and the chatzeir is serving that one house.<sup>14<\/sup> This process is known as eruv chatzeiros. If there is a person living in the chatzeir who is not shomer-Shabbos or Jewish, this is not sufficient. In such a case, one&nbsp;needs to rent his rights to the chatzeir from that person.<sup>15<\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A hotel consists of rooms which open into a central hallway, analogous to a chatzeir. As all the exits from the hotel have doors, the first of the above criteria is met. However, some Poskim feel that the second criteria of making an eruv chatzeiros must also be met in order to carry in the hallways.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All agree that an eruv chatzeiros is not needed if, to the best of one\u2019s knowledge, there is only one Jewish family in the hotel.<sup>16<\/sup> Furthermore, all agree that an eruv chatzeiros is not necessary if all the Jewish families in the hotel will be eating all of the Shabbos meals together.<sup>17<\/sup> However, if there are two or more Jewish families in the hotel, and the families will not be eating the meals together, there is discussion amongst the Poskim as to whether an eruv chatzeiros is needed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In such a case, Rav Moshe Feinstein zt\u201dl paskened that an eruv chatzeiros is not needed.<sup>18<\/sup> This is because the whole hotel is owned by one person (or group of people), who owns the furniture in each room and has the right to enter the room. Thus, even though some of the rooms in the hotel have been rented by Jews, all the rooms are considered to be under the control of the non-Jew who owns the hotel.<sup>19<\/sup> The Dvar Avrohom disagrees<sup>20<\/sup> and feels that an eruv chatzeiros should be made.<sup>21<\/sup> In order to do this, one would need to rent the rights to the hallways from the owner. The owner is not present, but it is halachically acceptable to rent from any employee of the owner.<sup>22<\/sup> Therefore, one can rent the rights from the concierge&nbsp;at the front desk of the hotel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to this opinion, one of the Jewish people staying at the hotel should give the concierge a dollar and tell him that he wants to rent the hallways for the right to carry in them during the Jewish Sabbath. He can explain to the concierge that this will not practically affect anyone else in any way and is merely necessary in Jewish law to allow him to carry in the hallways on Sabbath. 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The chatzeir was used by the members of these houses for chores, such as washing clothes and grinding grain. The Torah considers a chatzeir to be a reshus hayachid (a private domain) if it is surrounded on all sides by walls of the houses and one could, therefore, carry in the chatzeir on Shabbos. 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