{"id":1188,"date":"2013-08-20T17:57:41","date_gmt":"2013-08-20T17:57:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.star-k.org\/articles\/?p=1188"},"modified":"2026-02-13T17:33:00","modified_gmt":"2026-02-13T17:33:00","slug":"pas-habah-bkisnin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.star-k.org\/articles\/kashrus-kurrents\/1188\/pas-habah-bkisnin\/","title":{"rendered":"Pas Habah B&#8217;Kisnin: Pas or Pas Nisht"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Spring 2005 | Updated August 2013<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">&#8230;Sora spent the whole morning shopping and was ready to stop for lunch. She was in luck. The kosher pizza shop was down the block from the mall. Since she was watching her weight she did not want to indulge, so she ordered one slice, salad and a diet soda. As she carried her order to her seat, she was faced with a dilemma: which <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">brocha<\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> (blessing) should she make &#8211; <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">mezonos<\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> or <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">hamotzi<\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">?<\/span><wp-block data-block=\"core\/more\"><\/wp-block><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><br><\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><br><\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">&#8230;It was a beautiful wedding with a magnificent stand up smorgasbord. Naturally, the guests lined the carving tables to indulge in delicious corned beef. The <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">glatt<\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> kosher caterer ordered <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">mezonos<\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> rolls for the occasion. Are the <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">mezonos<\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> rolls really <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">mezonos<\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> or are they <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">hamotzi<\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> rolls in disguise?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">&#8230;Naftali was taking the Red Eye Express to New York. <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">Boruch Hashem<\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> the airline had his kosher meal as ordered, complete with a <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">challah<\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> roll stamped &#8220;<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">mezonos<\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">&#8221; on the cellophane. Can Naftali dig right in, or does he have to wait for the stewardess to clear the aisle so he can go to the galley to wash?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">The term &#8220;<i>mezonos<\/i> roll&#8221; is one of the great <i>kashrus<\/i> oxymorons. If the roll <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">is indeed bread, how can the <i>brocha<\/i> (blessing) for the &#8220;roll&#8221; be <i>mezonos<\/i>, a <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><i>brocha<\/i> designated for cake or cookies? If the <i>brocha<\/i> for this look-alike <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">roll is indeed <i>mezonos<\/i>, how can the <i>brocha<\/i> on a product that looks like <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">bread and tastes like bread not be <i>hamotzi<\/i>?<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">As we will see from this article, the <i>mezonos<\/i> roll is indeed a misnomer. <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">However, the <i>halacha<\/i> in <i>Orach Chaim<\/i> 168:7 makes allowances for certain <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">specialty baked goods that mirror regular bread in either substance or <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">texture but differ from regular bread significantly enough to downgrade the <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><i>brocha<\/i> from <i>hamotzi<\/i> to <i>mezonos<\/i>. These specialty breads are <i>halachically<\/i> <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">termed <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin &#8211;<\/i> literally, pocket bread.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">Note: <i>Pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i> should not be confused with pita bread that is <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">bread with a pocket, full-fledged bread, on which one recites <i>hamotzi<\/i>.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular;\"><b>Determining the Criteria<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">What qualifies as <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i>? Our Rabbis posit four approaches to <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">define <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i>:<br><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">The <i>Tur<\/i>, <i>Rach<\/i>, <i>Aruch<\/i>, and the <i>Rashba<\/i> say that <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i> is bread <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">dough that is filled with honey, nuts, sweets and spices.<\/span><\/span><\/li><li><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">According to the <i>Rambam<\/i> and the <i>Bais Yose<\/i>f the dough, itself, is <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">distinctively sweet or fruity. The dough should taste more markedly <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">cake-like than bread-like.<\/span><\/span><\/li><li><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">The <i>Bach<\/i> embellishes the <i>Rambam&#8217;s\/Bais Yosef<\/i> position thusly: the eggs, <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">honey, and other sweet or spicy ingredients should not only give the dough a <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">distinctly sweet or spicy taste but these ingredients should be a major <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">ingredient component of the recipe as well.<sup><a href=\"#footnotes\">1<\/a><\/sup><\/span><\/span><\/li><li><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><i>Rav Hei Gaon<\/i>&#8216;s approach to <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i> is as follows: The bread <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">dough, either bland or spiced, is baked into a crisp hard cracker-like <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">texture. Some examples of this approach are flatbread, bread sticks, and <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">pretzels.<sup><a href=\"#footnotes\">2<\/a><\/sup><br><\/span><\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">The <i>halacha<\/i> combines and follows all four opinions. One would recite <\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">boreh minei mezonos<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> on products fulfilling any one of the above criteria.<sup><a href=\"#footnotes\">3<\/a><\/sup><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular;\"><b>The Fundamental Principle<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">Is there a fundamental principle and\/or common criteria that unify all <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><i>halachi<\/i>c illustrations of <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i>? Yes, there is. The fundamental principle determining whether a product is deemed bread or <\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> is predicated on the intention of the producer when the product is baked or manufactured.<sup><a href=\"#footnotes\">4<\/a><\/sup> If the manufacturer or baker intended to bake bread, <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">a product to be eaten as a meal, that item is considered full-fledged bread. Even if that product is subsequently formulated into an item with <\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> properties, that cracker-like product is still <i>halachically<\/i> considered to be bread and the <i>brocha<\/i> will be <i>hamotzi<\/i>. Conversely, if the <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">intention of the manufacturer is to create a snack product, that product is <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">considered to be <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i>.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><b>Melba toast<\/b> is a classic example of bread that is subsequently toasted. <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">Melba toast was named after Dame Nellie Melba, who wanted a low fat <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">alternative to bread so that she could watch her weight. The baker&#8217;s <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">intention when making the Melba toast was to create an alternative to bread. Even though Melba toast resembles Rav Hei Gaon&#8217;s criteria of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">, the <i>brocha<\/i> on Melba toast is <i>hamotzi<\/i>. Conversely, frozen pizza boards that are par-baked and edible are manufactured with the intention of being further processed into pizza, a product that is a snack food, a <\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> upon which one recites <i>boreh minei mezonos<\/i>.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><b>Bagel Chips:<\/b> One of the most elusive <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i> bakery products is <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">the bagel chip. Bagel chips can theoretically be made in many fashions: <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">baked, toasted, fried, manufactured commercially, or made locally on a small <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">scale in a local bakery. Commercially produced bagel chips, according to the <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">bagel chip companies researched, do not take fresh bagels and slice and <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">toast them into bagel chips. In order to get a uniform bagel chip product, <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">commercial bagel chips have fairly stringent quality control baking <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">criteria: size, thickness and texture. To this end, commercial bagel chips <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">are made from long loaves of bagel dough that are extruded and cut into <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">uniformly sized bagel chips that are seasoned, baked and toasted. These <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">commercial bagel chips are manufactured as a snack food and so, the <i>brocha<\/i> <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">would also be <i>borei minei mezonos<\/i>.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">How does a commercial bagel chip differ from one that was made in the local <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">bakery? Commercial bagel chips do have a bagel look and texture, yet many of <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">them do not have a hole! Furthermore, they are all uniform in size and <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">thickness. Bagel chips fitting these criteria would be <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i>. <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">On the other hand, bagel chips made from leftover bagels, which were <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">originally intended to be eaten as a meal, would be similar to Melba toast <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">and the <i>brocha<\/i> on these bagel chips are <i>hamotzi<\/i>. If the baker has no <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">specific intention, he or she often bakes bagels knowing that some of them will eventually be converted into bagel chips. Those bagel chips would be <\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">Frying creates a completely different <i>halachic<\/i> ruling with all bread <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">products. Any fried bread product &#8211; croutons, pita chips, bagel chips and <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">the like &#8211; may warrant a <i>borei minei mezonos<\/i> because frying nullifies the <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">bread status of a bread product less than a <i>kizayis<\/i>. Boiling a flour-based <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">product such as pasta always creates the <i>borei minei mezonos<\/i> status because <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">it is not bread and does not have the texture of bread.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular;\"><b>Putting the Consumer Into the Picture<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nevertheless, as with every general rule there are exceptions. <i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">Pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> products are no different. There are two very common occurrences when a <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i> product can be and is elevated to bread status.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><b>When One is Koveah Seuda<\/b><br><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">1) When one eats a full dinner meal, consisting of <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i>, or 2) <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">If one uses <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i> to augment other side dishes, the <i>brocha<\/i> one <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">makes on that <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i> is <i>hamotzi<\/i> when a full meal is eaten. Why? <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">In these cases when one eats the <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i> as one would eat bread, <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">the <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i> has been elevated to bread-like status. Hence the <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><i>brocha<\/i> would be <i>hamotzi<\/i> in these circumstances. In all instances of <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">exclusive <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i> consumption, the amount that an average person <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">consumes for a dinner meal determines how much <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i> <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">constitutes a full meal.<sup><a href=\"#footnotes\">5<\/a><\/sup> When the <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i> augments the meal, <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">such as cake or a <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i> roll with an airline meal, even if the <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i> roll or cake tasted like cake, once one eats this cake or <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">roll with a meal it fulfills a bread-like criteria and one would have to <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">wash and make <i>hamotzi<\/i> on the cake or <i>mezonos<\/i> roll.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><b>Pizza:<\/b> Pizza is a classic example of flexible <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i> whose <\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> changes with the amount the average consumer eats.<br><\/span><b><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><br>Pizza as a Meal:<\/span><\/b><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> Our Kashrus Kurrents pizza poll of current consumer eating <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">habits indicates that the average person consumes one slice of an 18&#8243; pizza <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">(alone, without any sides) as a snack and three slices of an 18&#8243; pizza <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">(alone, without any sides) as a meal. Two slices of an 18&#8243; pizza (alone, <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">without any sides) was questionable. Most pizza shops were in agreement that <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">the average consumer orders 2 slices of pizza with a side dish for dinner. <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">Similarly, one slice of square pan Sicilian pizza eaten alone as a meal is <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">questionable, since the average consumer orders the one slice together with <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">side dishes for dinner. Therefore, in order to avoid a questionable <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">circumstance, 2 slices of 18&#8243; pizza or one slice of Sicilian pizza should <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">not be ordered alone. Our data showed some other eating habits of the <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">average consumer. They include consuming 1\/2 of a 14&#8243; thin crust pie, 1\/2 of <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">a 12&#8243; regular crust pie, 1\/2 of a 9&#8243; deep dish pizza, or a complete 9&#8243; or <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">10&#8243; pie for dinner.<sup>6<\/sup><br><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><b>Specialty Breads:<\/b> All specialty &#8220;flat bread&#8221; varieties, such as flat breads, <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">lavash, wasa bread or cracker bread are baked for snacking; the <i>brocha<\/i> is <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><i>borei minei mezonos<\/i>. If the flat breads augment a dinner meal, the <i>brocha<\/i> <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">would be elevated to <i>hamotzi<\/i>.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">We hope that this article has given the kosher consumer a clearer <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">understanding about the <i>halachic <\/i>ramifications of <i>pas habah b&#8217;kisnin<\/i>, so <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">that the next time he or she decides to go out to dinner, pizza and fries <\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">will be approached with a new and healthy reverence &#8211; and, the correct <i>brocha<\/i>.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a name=\"footnotes\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>1. Be&#8217;er Heitev O.C. 168 No. 12. According to this opinion, the pas habah b&#8217;kisnin is comparable to cake that is eaten at the end of a meal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>2. According to this opinion pas habah b&#8217;kisnin means food that one chews.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>3. Be&#8217;er Heitev Ibid No. 10<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>4. Be&#8217;er Heitev Ibid No. 11<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>5. See Be&#8217;er Halacha Ibid No. 6. It seems clear that an elderly person or a young child who eats smaller portions would have to wash and bentch on the amount that they normally eat because their age group is satiated with a smaller amount.<i><br><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><br>6. For other scenarios and halachic issues regarding pizza see <a href=\"https:\/\/www.star-k.org\/articles\/kosher-lists\/1512\/pas-habaah-bkisnin\/\">here<\/a>.<br><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Spring 2005 | Updated August 2013<\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">&#8230;Sora spent the whole morning shopping and was ready to stop for lunch. She was in luck. The kosher pizza shop was down the block from the mall. Since she was watching her weight she did not want to indulge, so she ordered one slice, salad and a diet soda. As she carried her order to her seat, she was faced with a dilemma: which <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">brocha<\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> (blessing) should she make &#8211; <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">mezonos<\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"> or <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">hamotzi<\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">?<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><br \/><\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\"><br \/><\/span><i><span style=\"font-family: Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular; font-size: small;\">&#8230;It was a beautiful wedding with a magnificent stand up smorgasbord. Naturally, the guests lined the carving tables to indulge in delicious corned beef. 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